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(Date Posted:12/15/2006 10:39 PM)
ok first of all christmas is not about gifts. and secondly if its gonna cause that much problem all because she didnt get the gift you wanted then why did you even bother to ask for one knowing how it would be? the only reason i may sound a bit rude or angry here is because how could you even post that and not expect to see a response like this? i really think that you need to calm down on the gift thing because thats just ridiculous. you can ask to for her to return it but just because its not what you wanted is no reason to throw a tantrum!!
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(Date Posted:12/16/2006 12:31 AM)
No christmas is not about gifts, and I never said that. However it's the fact that my mom never ever listens to me about anything I am not gonna take her fucking bullshit anymore. And I expected that response that's why I said this: "Now it may seem a bit selfish..." Anywho I said I was going to ask her to return the gift, that'll probaly be when she will say something and I will retaliate. Read my whole statement before saying something.
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(Date Posted:12/16/2006 1:28 AM)
I think she did dear. I also have the same responce. And yes, I did read the whole thing. I am sure Niq did also. I a sure your mother has her reasions fro not getting what you want. Though I am unsure. Not often am I able to get my kids what they realy want, even when they ask me over and over again, and I know what they want.
Usualy the reasion is money now. And you may think it is not that big of a deal, but the responcibilities of being a parent come befor any gifts. Some times, it is content, others is because of safty reasions. There could be a 1001 resions why your mom has not gotten what you realy want. For me and with my kids, its about money. And they do not complain either, they understand money is short, and I might be lucky, but they usualy do not complain either. They are glad for what they got, even if it was not what they realy realy wanted. Of course, that does not stop them from telling me what that want is, yet they are polite about it. And IF i am able to get that said gift, and it is appropriate, then I will. If not christmas or birthday, then at least as a special gift. But that is only sometimes now.
Plus, look at it this way, the best gift is your family. Whether you believe that or not. Belittling what gifts are given does sound more like a temper tantrum then anything. I am not being mean, nor is Niq. However, it does feel like a slap in the face though, as a person and as a parent. Its hard not being able to give our kids what they realy want, what we think they deserve, and what they/we wish for. It realy is hard on us as parents. So when you start throwing a fit about not getting what you want, it is precieved as a temper tantrum.
As far as you saying "However it's the fact that my mom never ever listens to me about anything I am not gonna take her fucking bullshit anymore." that is quite harsh. I do not know your mom, nor your situation beyand what you have said. However, no matter how hard it may be for you, there is still the matter of respect. She is doing the best she knows how to do. Whether you agree with it, whether you like it or not, she is doing the best she knows how. This makes you and her neither right or wrong. After all, parents do not come with a user manual when our children are born. Its a learning process as we go. I am saddened to see you respond this way.
For your reaction, only you have controle over how you react and what your responces will be. So if you antisipate on being kicked out because you "go of on her" then perhaps instead of setting yourself up for a bad holiday, try rethinking the situation, look at it from another point of view and relax. Remember only you controle your actions. You do not have to retaliate to the situation and make it worse then it already seems to you. But in the end, the choice is yours. Remember, i have said this many times, you have controle of your actions and what you do, not the other way around.
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(Date Posted:12/16/2006 2:15 AM)
If I doing nothing I'll be like everyone else and let her have her control(trust me she has some control issues ask anyone in my family). Also if I do nothing it'll just be another thing adding to the rage I have being built up. It's not money because the idea she suggested to my dad cost the same amount...So it's clearly not money factoring in...I just think she likes being a bitch...
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Sarrene
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(Date Posted:12/16/2006 2:29 AM)
Well, all I can say is shes the Mom! You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but she is the mom.
There are other options then keeping this "rage" as you put it, inside. There are other options then being disrespectfull as well. You can go for a run, work out, paint or draw.. anything to help you get your feelings out. But it all boils down to respecting your mother, even if you do not agree.
I do not get along with my mother, and there is a long history there. More then you even realise. However, despite all that has ever happened, she is still my mother, and I still respect her for that. I do not agree with how she did things, or some of the things she did. Yet over all, there needs to be that respect if nothing else.
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(Date Posted:12/16/2006 3:22 AM)
I've told you of other reasons before sara why she deserves something like this. Mother or not she is just another human being.
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Niquole
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(Date Posted:12/16/2006 1:31 PM)
i dont understand you anymore because how you can sit there and say its not about gifts when you are reacting this way because you didnt get what you want?! sara is right when she said that she is your mother whether or not you like it or whatever shes done to make you think she deserves it she is your mother. you do realize your not the only one with problems in the family right??? i mean my god i could write a frickin 6 book novel on mine! as im sure you could. instead of getting so angry why dont you move on and try to make something of yourself. oh yea thats right you dont think your worth it... well then be miserable forever and just ruin your life. which you know darn well you dont want that you just say that out of anger and frustration!
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(Date Posted:12/16/2006 5:33 PM)
Did you not just hear me, she's buying something for herself as a gift for me, yet I am the wrong one?
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(Date Posted:12/16/2006 7:49 PM)
I surely hope that you take the time to sit down and seriously think about this situation dear. Whatever it is that you do , however you react will effect you for the rest of your life. If you react terribly you will have to live with the consequinces(sp) I just don't want you to put your self in a bad situation dear, without really thinking about how this will turn out. Life is hard out in the world alone. I don't know if in your short life if you have ever had to live completely by your own means with no one elses help. It isnt as easy as one might think. I know some people make it look easy, but I assure you if they have it easy it is because they had help or that they are much older and have already struggled through the hard stuff and are now on the easy part. Life is harsh sometimes and we don't usually get what we want. In life you just have to learn to be thankful for what you have, and to graciously accept and be thankful for what is given to you (even if you don't like it) Remember at this time of year exchang at the store is extra easy.  If you don't try to understand dear that to survive in life and try to be happy is to try to get along and make the best of what you have been given in life, it will be a long hard road for you through life and a very miserable one at that, or in some cases a very short road because you shorten it your self because you are so miserable. I hope that it will not be the case. You have the potential to grow up and move out and be or do anything you like change the things you dont like. You are still a wee one dear, and in place in life where you should just accept what you got and do what you have to to make it by with as little conflict as possible. Your time will come, when your life is yours to run as you see fit. Christmas is suppose to be a happy time , a peaceful time, where one is thankful for being alive. Just remeber there are kids out there who don't even have a mother and father to give them a gift, living on the street selling themself and robbing people to eat. So however bad it is dear just remember you are not a gangbanging drug dealing whore on the street begging for food or fighting for food with no place to lay your head at night. So it could be worse. No one owes you anything, and I know you did not ask to be brought into this world. However if you are getting anything above food clothes and shelter feel privalged dear it could be worse, some don't have that. I know it is hard at your age to understand, but try dear and think about what i have said really long and hard. I truely hope that these words help you to understand. I wish you a very Merry Chrsitmas and hope all goes well reguardless of what you get.
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(Date Posted:12/16/2006 7:58 PM)
By the way what exactly is it that you want anyhow? And how can you be sure that you are not getting it?
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(Date Posted:12/17/2006 12:12 AM)
It all depends on her reaction as to me asking her to return the gift of whether or not I'll go off on her.
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(Date Posted:12/17/2006 9:54 AM)
Okay this is how I read it.
1) you asked for somthing.
2) Mom discussed with dad another option besides what you wanted.
Is that pretty much what happened. You may have asked for somthing that wasnt feasible at the time. Something that was inopropriate or just plain crazy. It does not mean that Mom is buying a gift for you that is somthing that she wants. Unless she is buying the complete Betty Crocker Kitchen make-over.
You are being selfish and quite frankly acting like a 5 year old and a spoiled one at that. Think about what you asked for. What it actually is and wether or not it can be attained. Take the PS3 unless she stood in line for two days before it went on sale somthing like that wont be seen till spring. There may be circumstances beyond their control (To include money or space) that would exclude it being a present AT THIS TIME.
Look also at how you have presented yourself is it a present that would take some responsibility have you shown your parents that responsibility?
Think about those things if you want discuss with us about what it was that you wanted maybe as a parent and also not to far removed from your age that we forgot what its like that we might be able to help out.
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(Date Posted:12/17/2006 11:06 PM)
It's not fine when
A. She said it was fine earlier in the year as did my dad.
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B. I told her she can get it at as late as my birthday next year if she has to.
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C. The gift that she proposed would benefit her the most and not benefit me at all. She shouldn't be using my gift for herself.
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Jacquenette
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(Date Posted:12/18/2006 5:30 PM)
You know Aarron you still have not stated anywhere what it was you asked your parents for.
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Gavlin
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(Date Posted:12/18/2006 11:16 PM)
A PS3 which I asked both of them if they would get it if I sacrificed all my other gifts this year and they both said yes. Not to mention I will also be paying for a portion of it.
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Niquole
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(Date Posted:12/19/2006 12:41 AM)
you said that your mom bought a gift for her and wrapped it for you.. in your original post that you started this with it did not say that.
secondly aaron seriously i dont know how your mom would get a ps3 right now. they are beyond expensive on ebay and if you told them youd help pay like in the month of december then id laugh at you for thinking youd get one right now this month!!
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(Date Posted:12/19/2006 1:02 AM)
My goodness those are selling for THOUSANDS of dollars right now.
You can't even find one in a store. I understand the problem your parents may have there.
I would dare say that if they absolutely wanted you to have one, they couldn't get it.
I don't know you or your parents to judge either way, but I do know what is going on with the ps3.
You have been given some advice though. I know that sometimes it is hard ot get along with parents, but you need to try or get a job and get out of their house and make it on your own. That's what I did at 19 with 2 kids. I was tired of Mom whom I didnt appreciate at the time so I moved the heck away from her and took responciblity for myself and my kids. I am very glad I did that, but I now understand better my Mom's feelings and why she had to do some of things she did. I may have disagreed with her alot back then but one thing I did then and even more so now is respect her. Lots of parents dont get presents for their kids you know, some totally neglect them. If that's not you then be very thankful. I understand now that even though I oculd not see it back then, my Mom was giving and caring, taking care of me and my 2 children. Maybe a bit like your Mom though, she need to be in power and control, but it's a Mom thing =), I took the power and control for myself then gave it to my daughter at her maturity.
My spelling may be off, I hope you can read it all and there may be a typo or 2 because I am really good at that =)
Have a nice Christmas dear, try hard to.
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(Date Posted:12/19/2006 1:06 AM)
ogh yes BTW
how do you know they didnt get one and are keeping it secret til Christmas? Now I am not trying to get your hopes up but wanting a ps3 is not a good thing at this time of year, if they couldn't get it maybe they plan to get one for you when not everyone in the world wants one!
you said they got you something opf equal value, that sounds really nice under the circumstances.
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(Date Posted:12/19/2006 3:40 AM)
Niq I am going to start off by showing you my previous post which said this "B. I told her she can get it at as late as my birthday next year if she has to."
Ok now ivory first of all they are $499.99 and $599.99 and the highest they have gotten up to recently is $700 without anything extra. So right now no not thousands, expensive yes, thousands no. And I now power and control is some crazy mom thing, as f'ed up as it is, but I don't care and I am going to bitch at her anyways, she deserves it now, she hasn't listened to anything I've tried to get her to do, most of it to benefit her and make her life better because they are long term solutions and I will be gone in 6 months(she already said she is kicking me out after graduation) and this is just fuel to the fire because now she's being even more selfish. Everyone in my family, including people in her side of the family, knows there is something wrong with her and that she needs help. Yet I am the only one with enough balls to actually say something to her about it. Second of all if you read the previous post the gift she got is mainly for her benefit. It is a ticket to Florida. Now first of all she loves Florida, to give you guys an idea she goes at least twice a year(yet still complains of debt which is why I don't believe her at all) and almost always without me. This year we already went to Florida to look at a college. She never asked me if that's where I would want to go and it is not. She knows damn well there are colleges in both Arizona and Washington I want to visit if possible and she said, well I don't have the money. Piecing things together I would just say that she came up with the idea through her own selfishness and used my gift as an excuse. Not to mention the college I just got accepted to is in Arizona and that is probaly the only good thing that has happened for the past 3 1/2 years. So if I seem like an asshole it's because right now I am having a mental breakdown and am pretty much being an asshole to everyone...
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(Date Posted:12/19/2006 10:12 AM)
Right now on ebay those ps3 s are selling for the buy it now prices 1000 dollars plus some even 2000 dollars plus. Yes you can big on them while they are low but by the time the bidding is over it isnt low anymore. In the newpaper here they are selling them in the classifieds for more than my used car cost, at 5000 dollars. Anyhow Iam sorry your parents did not sit up all night at a sore for days to get you a ps3 they are not easily attainable. My kids will probably never see one personaly I can't afford it and I can't afford the prices of the games for the system. They will just have to keep loving their ps2 bought almost 3 years ago or more. Congratualtions on getting accepted to the college in Arizona. Sorry your mom is trying to push you to go to a school you don't want to go. But look at it this way you will be out on your own soon and don't have to be with your parents who can never make you happy anyhow. I personaly am just happy that I have a family to love and have them love me, with a roof over our heads and food in our belly. My kids are not getting alot for Christmas but there will be something under the tree, and none of them asked for anything specific this year either because they at the ages of 14 16 and 17 know that things have been hard for the past two years, however things are looking better for the up and coming year, for a change. If I had money I would buy you all a few rounds of physiciatrist (spelling) help , from the way you talk Aarron your whole family is about to explode from some kind of mental break down. They make pills for that kind of stuff and it really does help, I know alot of people who take them, Including my very own child. I hope you have a very Merry Christmas in spite of your family and your self.
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(Date Posted:12/20/2006 3:58 AM)
Once again I said they did not have to buy it before christmas so your "sit up all night at a sore for days" is not valid. Also I've been watching most of the ebay auctions and they've been selling at $600 for the 20 GB and $700 for the 60 GB quite frequently. They may be buy it now at $1,000.00 but that doesn't mean all of them are selling at that price, in fact only a few of them have and that's usually with an extra game and/or upgrade to the space.
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(Date Posted:12/20/2006 5:58 AM)
I hope Santa will bring you one dear. You never know, he might.
but either way I hope you find some happiness for christmas in something somewhere somehow.
No one here can fix this for you. I am sorry you may not get what you want and don't like what you are getting. Everyone here has their own personal problems to handle, and in the end you are going to handle yours the way you want no matter what anyone says. We all do it that way hehe.
Your parents can't be all bad, you have daoc =)
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(Date Posted:12/20/2006 11:03 PM)
No my dad isn't bad at all he's rather nice and said he has no problem with the agreement considering that him and my mom together probaly spend over $600 on gifts each year combined.
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(Date Posted:12/22/2006 8:19 PM)
Sweetheart, listen to yourself. They have until your birthday of next year? So why get so upset now? Is your birthday Jan 1st? Then settle down. It's not about what you want under the tree. Trust me, everything I wanted to get or give was sold out. Do you know why your going to Florida? Maybe the ticket is something that will benefit you. You cannot be so judgemental right now. You only know half the story. So calm down, wait and see why they want you to go to Florida, and hold off on the PS3 til your birthday like YOU told them they could. About the whole "motherly control and power" thing, it is her right. She is still responsible for you and she gets to makes the big decisions. Unfortunately, you only get to give her your input on things that involve you. It sucks, but it's the way it goes. The only thing you can really do is let go of all your rage towards her. Focus on graduating and going to collage. Besides, once your out of the house, you get to be the big shot and make the decisions. Then you can see how truly hard it is to make the best decisions. Try not to get so upset over a gift. Try talking to her about how you feel, not waiting for a chance to blow up at her. There are more ways to stand up to someone then to bitch them out. And if that is how you feel you need to stick up for yourself, then try growing up a little more. Think long term... if you blow up at your parents they kick you out. If you yell at your boss he'll fire you. If you get pissed at a teacher they can kick you out of school. You neeed to find a more positive way to handle your emotions and conflict. And please don't be so defensive with the alliance, we are all just trying to help. You don't know what we have all been through, and I know that we all speak from personal experience. Just try to keep an open mind and take advantage of all the great advice we have to offer. You have a great network here, people who have been through a lot more then you could imagine. The only way to leran is to live through it, and you will never get better advice then from someone who has been there and made the same mistakes. We only want whats best for you.
Amanda
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(Date Posted:12/22/2006 8:41 PM)
What I said was in exchange for them not getting any of gifts for my last birthday and this christmas...So if she gets a gift this christmas it rules out the possibility of getting it later... Not to mention right now I don't even think I will be able to make it to september...
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(Date Posted:12/25/2006 10:38 PM)
Troubled times you bring to your home,
through out this world you can comb
No where shall ye see the blaim you seek
but in yourself, your heart shall become meak.
To push aside the blave and fright
never shall it leave your heart and sight.
Face front and full the ties to power
in only this admission will you find honor.
Befor you is this one and only task,
to find the truth for your soul you may bask.
In light of familiy harships and joy ties
Is where your unlitmate truth and faith lies.
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